Today i so a thread about Fan speed..etc and it got me thinking. I dont know nothing about how Fans works, and about Memory, so if someone can helpHow do you change fan speed on the computers?
Does this computer have good cooler?-COOLERMASTER, Centurion 590 Black Mid-Tower Computer Case, ATX, No PSU, SECC
-CORSAIR, CMPSU-550VX VX Series Power Supply, 550W, 80 PLUS? 24-pin ATX12V EPS12V, SLI Ready
-INTEL, DQ35JOE, LGA775, Intel Q35 vProTM, 1333MHz FSB, DDR2-800 8GB /4, PCIe x16, SATA 3.0 Gbit/s RAID 5 /6, VGA+DVI, Audio, GbLAN, FW /2, mATX, Retail
-INTEL, CoreTM 2 Duo E8400 Dual-Core, 3.0GHz, 1333MHz FSB, 6MB L2 Cache, 45nm, 65W, EM64T EIST VT XD, Retail
-G.SKILL, 4GB (2 x 2GB) PC2-6400 DDR2 800MHz CL5 (5-5-5-15) SDRAM DIMM, Non-ECC
-XFX, GeForce?GTX 260, GTX 260 576MHz, 896MB DDR3 1998MHz, PCIe x16 SLI, DVI /2, HDTV-Out, Retail
-WESTERN DIGITAL, 500GB WD Caviar?GreenTM, SATA 3 Gb/s, 7200 RPM, 16MB Cache
-RAID, No RAID, Independent HDD Drives
-LITE-ON, DH-16D3P-08 Black 16x48x DVD-ROM Drive, IDE, Retail
-SONY, CRX320EE Black 52x32x52-16A DVD-ROM/CD-RW Combo Drive, EIDE/ATAPI, OEM
-MICROSOFT, Windows Vista Home Basic Edition 64-bit w/ SP1, OEM And the last question is, What is the difference between A 2x2Gb, and a 1x4GB Memory?Some questions about Desktops?
I'll go with the latter question first as there's no controversy involved:2x2 = 2 sticks of 2 gb each1x4 = 1 stick of 4 gb2x2 is better as it allows you the benefit of running the paired sticks in dual channel.I'm not a fan of Coolermaster cases in general, and I find the Centurion to be both ugly and undercooled. It's just a cheap piece of junk IMO. Now along will come the Coolermaster lovers who will say they like the way it looks and that people who want multiple fans cooling their hard drives are being overkillers. But if I were you I'd look at the Antec 300, 900, or 1200, or Thermaltake Armor series. Some questions about Desktops?
[QUOTE=''WDT-BlackKat''] I'll go with the latter question first as there's no controversy involved:2x2 = 2 sticks of 2 gb each1x4 = 1 stick of 4 gb2x2 is better as it allows you the benefit of running the paired sticks in dual channel.I'm not a fan of Coolermaster cases in general, and I find the Centurion to be both ugly and undercooled. It's just a cheap piece of junk IMO. Now along will come the Coolermaster lovers who will say they like the way it looks and that people who want multiple fans cooling their hard drives are being overkillers. But if I were you I'd look at the Antec 300, 900, or 1200, or Thermaltake Armor series. [/QUOTE]Okay I checked the Antec 300, 900, and 1200(Ithink) and it just seriously overpriced. It ranges from 107-290. Is it really worth it? Although I did find one which is Antec NSK 1300 Cube Case, mATX, 300W PFC, PSU. I dont know if its good but the price is a little less then my budget. I dont know if its good.
Cooler Master has good cases, although not all of them are intended to have high end air cooling capacity. The case I have in my signature is one of their much better cases for cooling with case fans. Up to 5 140mm fans, 2 120mm fans and a low profile 80mm fan, also dedicated venting for bottom mounted PSU, perforated front and top, plus space behind the motherboard for cable management. My roomate has the Antec 900 which is also an excellent option, although I find my case to be a bit more versatile.
OKay I found some that are on my budget, as I am spending 1100$ on this computer so far. My budget is 1255(Won't spend more). 35 is for S%26H, and I am around 1165(Fee for faster build up). Anyways tell me if anyone of these are good?
1-Coolmaster 590 Mid-Tower ATX, no PSU, SECC
2-ASPIRE X-Q Pack Cube Case mATX 420W PSU
3-XION XionII With windows 420W PSU ATXThe next two is only if 1-3 All TRULY Suck, and will probably not cool my comp
-Coolmaster Centrion 5 MID-tower W/windows ATX 380w PSU
-ASpire (Apevia) X-Cruiser Black Metal Case With Windows TAX 420W PSU
Coolermaster 590 should be a great budget case.
Do you live anywhere near a Fry's or something of the sort? They've often had sales on cases.. like they were selling the Antec 300 for $40 last weekend.
[QUOTE=''Makari'']Coolermaster 590 should be a great budget case. Do you live anywhere near a Fry's or something of the sort? They've often had sales on cases.. like they were selling the Antec 300 for $40 last weekend.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately I do no live anywhere near there.
[QUOTE=''Berserker1_5'']1-Coolmaster 590 Mid-Tower ATX, no PSU, SECC
2-ASPIRE X-Q Pack Cube Case mATX 420W PSU
3-XION XionII With windows 420W PSU ATXThe next two is only if 1-3 All TRULY Suck, and will probably not cool my comp
-Coolmaster Centrion 5 MID-tower W/windows ATX 380w PSU
-ASpire (Apevia) X-Cruiser Black Metal Case With Windows TAX 420W PSU[/QUOTE]Stay far away from the Aspire case. Aspire PSUs are likely to do something bad that in a comic book would turn you into some sort of electrically based superhero but in real life will kill you.Xion's not that bad but stay away from it for that PSU. Both Cooler Mastercases have insufficient cooling, although you might buy 80mm fans for empty slots to make them better, and the latter has a junk PSU. I do like the Cooler Master Stacker (not one you listed) but not at it's price of nigh $300.If you're not willing to spend some money on a good case there's not much I can do to help you. Anything under $100 is not likely to have sufficient cooling, although you can't judge on price alone. But really, do take my advice on those Aspire cases and PSUs. Death in a box. Just for future case searches. NEVER pick a case that includes a PSU as it will be trash and why pay for something you're going to have to throw out right away. Unless you're building a non-gaming computer you should aim for 650 or so watts, 750+ if planning on SLI or Crossfiring expensive video cards.The following are considered some of the respected brands (although not all their models) in no particular order for gaming PCs:Antec, Thermaltake, Silverstone, NZXT, Lan Li, ABS, Zalman, TuniqIn fact looking at New Egg I see Tuniq has some very nice, cheap case models. They do however not include all their fans typically so those will need to be purchased separately.
[QUOTE=''WDT-BlackKat''][QUOTE=''Berserker1_5''] 1-Coolmaster 590 Mid-Tower ATX, no PSU, SECC
2-ASPIRE X-Q Pack Cube Case mATX 420W PSU
3-XION XionII With windows 420W PSU ATXThe next two is only if 1-3 All TRULY Suck, and will probably not cool my comp
-Coolmaster Centrion 5 MID-tower W/windows ATX 380w PSU
-ASpire (Apevia) X-Cruiser Black Metal Case With Windows TAX 420W PSU[/QUOTE]Stay far away from the Aspire case. Aspire PSUs are likely to do something bad that in a comic book would turn you into some sort of electrically based superhero but in real life will kill you.Xion's not that bad but stay away from it for that PSU. Both Cooler Mastercases have insufficient cooling, although you might buy 80mm fans for empty slots to make them better, and the latter has a junk PSU.If you're not willing to spend some money on a good case there's not much I can do to help you. Anything under $100 is not likely to have sufficient cooling, although you can't judge on price alone. But really, do take my advice on those Aspire cases and PSUs. Death in a box. Just for future case searches. NEVER pick a case that includes a PSU as it will be trash and why pay for something you're going to have to throw out right away. Unless you're building a non-gaming computer you should aim for 650 or so watts, 750+ if planning on SLI or Crossfiring expensive video cards.The following are considered some of the respected brands (although not all their models) in no particular order for gaming PCs:Antec, Thermaltake, Silverstone, NZXT, Lan Li, ABS, Zalman, TuniqIn fact looking at New Egg I see Tuniq has some very nice, cheap case models. They do however not include all their fans typically so those will need to be purchased separately. [/QUOTE]
I understand your points and so I will buy one good case. However I still can't choose. So to make the process easier, I am gonna show you the website and hopefully you can help me choose a good one and not a expensive one.
http://www.avadirect.com/product_details_configurator.asp?PRID=9554
[QUOTE=''Berserker1_5'']I understand your points and so I will buy one good case. However I still can't choose. So to make the process easier, I am gonna show you the website and hopefully you can help me choose a good one and not a expensive one.
http://www.avadirect.com/product_details_configurator.asp?PRID=9554[/QUOTE] Oh... you're getting a pre-built :( That's too bad as it really limits your choices. But as far as pre-builts go, AVADirect is at least one of the only reputable (and not horribly over-priced ones). But you're not going to have the selection or competetive pricing that online parts stores like newegg.com offer.Compared to the Coolermaster 590 you indicated earlier, the Antec 300 is slightly cheaper on AVADirect. The problem is that the configurator on their site does not allow for adding additional fans so far as I can tell. The Antec 300 comes with 3 empty 120mm fan slots which really must be filled. It is possible that after placing the order, they would if called on the telephone, add those fans at some reasonable cost to the order if it is something they do. I would urge you to consider self-assembling a PC from parts though. You'll get more for your money, and putting PCs together can be quite fun.
[QUOTE=''WDT-BlackKat''] [QUOTE=''Berserker1_5'']I understand your points and so I will buy one good case. However I still can't choose. So to make the process easier, I am gonna show you the website and hopefully you can help me choose a good one and not a expensive one.
http://www.avadirect.com/product_details_configurator.asp?PRID=9554[/QUOTE] Oh... you're getting a pre-built :( That's too bad as it really limits your choices. But as far as pre-builts go, AVADirect is at least one of the only reputable (and not horribly over-priced ones). But you're not going to have the selection or competetive pricing that online parts stores like newegg.com offer.Compared to the Coolermaster 590 you indicated earlier, the Antec 300 is slightly cheaper on AVADirect. The problem is that the configurator on their site does not allow for adding additional fans so far as I can tell. The Antec 300 comes with 3 empty 120mm fan slots which really must be filled. It is possible that after placing the order, they would if called on the telephone, add those fans at some reasonable cost to the order if it is something they do. I would urge you to consider self-assembling a PC from parts though. You'll get more for your money, and putting PCs together can be quite fun. [/QUOTE]Making a PC, and building it is just out of question. Its almost impossible. Although now that you said that the Antec 300 isn't configured to have the fans, I want to know what else is the website hiding. What else will I have to upgrade, or change? The computer I am making cant get any cheaper even if I use Newegg.com I will also save about 50-120 Dollars give or take, and I am not willing to risk gettting destroy the computer by trying to build it. I failed once, and seriously dont want to lose another computer like that. Thanks on the info I will call them to find out, if not I will talk to the computer near my neiborhood.
I called AVAdirect today and I asked them if they have build in fans in the case, and they confirmed saying they have all build in fans installed. I dont know what you meant by fans, and what he meant by fans.
[QUOTE=''WDT-BlackKat'']I'll go with the latter question first as there's no controversy involved:2x2 = 2 sticks of 2 gb each1x4 = 1 stick of 4 gb2x2 is better as it allows you the benefit of running the paired sticks in dual channel.[/QUOTE]I think he meant 4x1 ,which is more common than 1x4, as 4x1= 4 sticks each 1gb each, which runs in dual channel too
[QUOTE=''Berserker1_5'']I called AVAdirect today and I asked them if they have build in fans in the case, and they confirmed saying they have all build in fans installed. I dont know what you meant by fans, and what he meant by fans.[/QUOTE] Well at retail the Antec 300 comes with 1 120mm fan at the rear, and 1 140mm fan at the top, but has slots for 5. Thus you would need 3 additional fans for the side panel and two front slots as those 2 fans it comes with are outtake fans. You would be lacking the intake fans needed at the front and side of the case to have the proper airflow. The way airflow and case fans in a good computer case is intended to work is IN from the side and front, and OUT from the back and top. I'd talk to them again and get an exact fan count to make sure he was not just referring to the 2 fans it normally comes with. Make ssure when he says it has ''all built in fans installed'' that he means 5 fans, not 2.
I have no idea why people here are recommending fans and stressing you about cooling, but basically TC its all BS. I assume your not overclocking since your build is not meant for it, so cooling really shouldn't be an issue at all. The whole 100 cases don't have good cooling is false, and the truth is having more fans usually messes up your airflow. The basic 2 fan ''Hot air
[QUOTE=''Penguin_dragon'']I have no idea why people here are recommending fans and stressing you about cooling, but basically TC its all BS. I assume your not overclocking since your build is not meant for it, so cooling really shouldn't be an issue at all. The whole 100 cases don't have good cooling is false, and the truth is having more fans usually messes up your airflow. The basic 2 fan ''Hot air [/QUOTE]No I do not OC
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