http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core_i7Pretty major change in the chip design and starting with the ground running. Prices $284 - $999 starting in october.motherboards and compliant video cards are excepted out at the same time.The only ''demo'' motherboard being shown around the industry right now can have up to 6 video cards which would be a total of 12 monitors.I am waiting until the holidays before buying my new PC.intel i7 chip
Yeah, Corei7 is pretty impressive. I'll probably be investing in a die-shrunk version of it way down the road, or perhaps a new architecture, since I just built my PC.intel i7 chip
It is, unfortunately, not very impressive as a gaming solution. So wait until some conclusive benchmarks come out before you decide to go for i7 later this year (unless you're not looking to get it for gaming). The one preview benchmark I have seen shows rather marginal performance increases at the same clock speeds as equivalent Penryns in some games, and
decreases in one other (Quake Wars, I think it was). And these are supposed to be the pre-die-shrink high-end processors, here. :? AMD has promised a response to i7 late this year (I think) that they believe will trump it, and that's very possible in at least the gaming arena. I look forward to seeing what they conjure up.
Wow their not that expensive considering Quad Core2 Extreme is $1500+ where they sell near my place.
[QUOTE=''f-a-d-3'']Wow their not that expensive considering Quad Core2 Extreme is $1500+ where they sell near my place.[/QUOTE] Yeah but it also requires a new mobo, and DDR3. Your looking at almost 1000 for mobo, cheapest i7 CPU, DDR3.
[QUOTE=''musclesforcier''][QUOTE=''f-a-d-3'']Wow their not that expensive considering Quad Core2 Extreme is $1500+ where they sell near my place.[/QUOTE] Yeah but it also requires a new mobo, and DDR3. Your looking at almost 1000 for mobo, cheapest i7 CPU, DDR3.[/QUOTE]I really doubt that the motherboard would cost 500 dollars. (the cheapest i7 being 284, and DDR3 being less than 200 for 2gb)
[QUOTE=''Mr_NoName111''][QUOTE=''musclesforcier''][QUOTE=''f-a-d-3'']Wow their not that expensive considering Quad Core2 Extreme is $1500+ where they sell near my place.[/QUOTE] Yeah but it also requires a new mobo, and DDR3. Your looking at almost 1000 for mobo, cheapest i7 CPU, DDR3.[/QUOTE]I really doubt that the motherboard would cost 500 dollars. (the cheapest i7 being 284, and DDR3 being less than 200 for 2gb)[/QUOTE] Thats not the retail price, and you need 3 sticks of DDR3. I bet a new X58 mobo will be around 300. I also doubt anyone getting i7 would settle such a low amount of ram.
[QUOTE=''musclesforcier''][QUOTE=''Mr_NoName111''][QUOTE=''musclesforcier''][QUOTE=''f-a-d-3'']Wow their not that expensive considering Quad Core2 Extreme is $1500+ where they sell near my place.[/QUOTE] Yeah but it also requires a new mobo, and DDR3. Your looking at almost 1000 for mobo, cheapest i7 CPU, DDR3.[/QUOTE]I really doubt that the motherboard would cost 500 dollars. (the cheapest i7 being 284, and DDR3 being less than 200 for 2gb)[/QUOTE] Thats not the retail price, and you need 3 sticks of DDR3. I bet a new X58 mobo will be around 300. I also doubt anyone getting i7 would settle such a low amount of ram.[/QUOTE]whats going to confuse alot of people is when half the mobos have 6 Ram slots and the others have 4..
[QUOTE=''yoyo462001''][QUOTE=''musclesforcier''][QUOTE=''Mr_NoName111''][QUOTE=''musclesforcier''][QUOTE=''f-a-d-3'']Wow their not that expensive considering Quad Core2 Extreme is $1500+ where they sell near my place.[/QUOTE] Yeah but it also requires a new mobo, and DDR3. Your looking at almost 1000 for mobo, cheapest i7 CPU, DDR3.[/QUOTE]I really doubt that the motherboard would cost 500 dollars. (the cheapest i7 being 284, and DDR3 being less than 200 for 2gb)[/QUOTE] Thats not the retail price, and you need 3 sticks of DDR3. I bet a new X58 mobo will be around 300. I also doubt anyone getting i7 would settle such a low amount of ram.[/QUOTE]whats going to confuse alot of people is when half the mobos have 6 Ram slots and the others have 4..[/QUOTE]Yeah, also you pretty much NEED a 64bit OS if you have 6 slots. I wonder how many people will get 32bit Vista and 6gb(2x3) DDR3.
[QUOTE=''JP_Russell'']It is, unfortunately, not very impressive as a gaming solution. So wait until some conclusive benchmarks come out before you decide to go for i7 later this year (unless you're not looking to get it for gaming). The one preview benchmark I have seen shows rather marginal performance increases at the same clock speeds as equivalent Penryns in some games, and
decreases in one other (Quake Wars, I think it was). And these are supposed to be the pre-die-shrink high-end processors, here. :? AMD has promised a response to i7 late this year (I think) that they believe will trump it, and that's very possible in at least the gaming arena. I look forward to seeing what they conjure up.[/QUOTE]If not for games then what for?...spreadsheets?The only reason to buy a high powered PC is for Engineering, Graphics, Games, Servers. Just so happens 3 of those 4 or also ideal for games leaving only one ''non gaming'' market. Servers.So what you are trying to say is that the i7 is for Servers and servers dont normally need crossfire.
yes
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=15015%26page=8
server %26 Fodling @home
For Atome Creation for community Help in Siences project such as Find a cure to the cancer or Better Terapy against Tumours
does of it high physiical thread combine to cuda GPU Of intel it a bomb. for fodling atome.
but not for gmaing until Westmere 33mm Revamped for Gaming Experiances that what i belive. it would be unlogic to intel
to not releash a new enthousiast gaming cpu Lines for Gamers every 3 year
[QUOTE=''marcthpro'']yes
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=15015%26page=8
server %26 Fodling @home
For Atome Creation for community Help in Siences project such as Find a cure to the cancer or Better Terapy against Tumours
does of it high physiical thread combine to cuda GPU Of intel it a bomb. for fodling atome.
but not for gmaing until Westmere 33mm Revamped for Gaming Experiances that what i belive. it would be unlogic to intel
to not releash a new enthousiast gaming cpu Lines for Gamers every 3 year [/QUOTE]1. The motherboard they are using to demo this new chip is not a server motherboard. Attentionally it has 6 graphic card slots in crossfire which is silly to have a server motherboard even if it was.2. I dont think Intel has ever waited a full three years before coming out with a major release change. It happens more like ever 18 months.
more like 32 month. before a True CPU THAT defeat is precedent with overlcocking by 15-30%
for i consider nehalem good it as to be 2.9ghz 520$ the one at that price. with
15%-30% more fps then QX9750 4.4GHZ overclocked. that is around 85-90fps. right now a QX9750 at that clocking
So nehalem would have to erach 110-120fps. 130fps or the nehalem 3.1Ghz Overlcocekd Reaching 45% more then QX9750 MAx air Cooled
or another comparison
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3283%26p=9
220fps. best intel cpu on market. 1920x1200 unreal tournament 3 would had to be 250fps+ To make the nehalem westmere a Revolutionary PC gaming device : the one on hexus show it not ready to defeat 3.2ghz QX9750 so QX9750 4.0ghz+
not seem a possible thing which add +17fps to overclock QX9750
less lagspike. to have a game 100% immune lag spike you get 250fps+
because the minum fps would never drop below. 60fps 24/24 7/7/ all maxed it would be a dream if every game work that way
i have a firend who play call of duty 4 : and once he reash 220fps. average / is minium wouldn't drop below 50fps. for sure so to think if you get 250fps + it immunity like my Warcraft 3 : it so old and not power hunger even with 500 tower / unit / with hundred of SFX such as line towar wars 2007 user map setting maps. having more fps is better. and il alway aim the more fps.
The quoted prices are for 1k chips, MSRP for the lowest will be +$320.
$200-$400 for the new motherboards is obvious.
Anywhere from $200-$500 for DDR3 is also somewhat obvious.So yes, in the $700-$800 range for the lowest setup and easily +$1000 for the early adopter enthusiasts.Also, other than gaming and servers the other main market for these chips is not only mobile but also workstation.
Start of nehalem is for workstation %26 HPC. not. gaming.
[QUOTE=''SEANMCAD''] [QUOTE=''JP_Russell'']It is, unfortunately, not very impressive as a gaming solution. So wait until some conclusive benchmarks come out before you decide to go for i7 later this year (unless you're not looking to get it for gaming). The one preview benchmark I have seen shows rather marginal performance increases at the same clock speeds as equivalent Penryns in some games, and
decreases in one other (Quake Wars, I think it was). And these are supposed to be the pre-die-shrink high-end processors, here. :? AMD has promised a response to i7 late this year (I think) that they believe will trump it, and that's very possible in at least the gaming arena. I look forward to seeing what they conjure up.[/QUOTE]If not for games then what for?...spreadsheets?The only reason to buy a high powered PC is for Engineering, Graphics, Games, Servers. Just so happens 3 of those 4 or also ideal for games leaving only one ''non gaming'' market. Servers.[/QUOTE]Actually, i7 is ideal as a server, with an 8-core model planned that's designed specifically for use as a server processor.When I say it's not impressive as a gaming solution, I'm talking about actual game performance, man, as in
playing games. Core i7 is a very incremental step up from Core 2 when it comes to games. It's specifically made to give significant increases in everything
but gaming.http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=480''
Nehalem is about improving HPC, Database, and virtualization performance, and much less about gaming performance.''http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=15015%26page=8 They cite GPU-limitation as a reason for the framerate drop at higher settings in QW, but that doesn't make sense because GPU limitation never causes a drop in performance, it only keeps performance from improving beyond a certain point, not to mention you're not going to have GPU limitation with a 4870. I've seen plenty of speculation that it's probably i7's weak L2 cache that reduces high-end game performance, which is much more plausible.Thus, that's why I said AMD has a chance to come in here with their next lineup and take the gaming performance crown back. Time will tell, though. New BIOS for the motherboards may over time improve i7 in games, but I personally doubt it.
yeah it possible amd take back there possiton for a while it would be favorable for it to take is crown back so intel would be forced to struggle more into make someting stronger. nothing better then competiton to let that happen
cause when economy degrade. you have two choice. resign and work on a long project.. or spend hundred million to make it happen shorter a possibltiy to conter attack
and it apprently what is going out with vista not enough innovative so they doubled the worker on the project . it was esitmated 1000worker for vista well there 2000worker. it say for Window Seven.
not to mention recently. AMD ad to fire up 2000worker. that bad but intel did same just to keep price lower.
[QUOTE=''marcthpro'']yeah it possible amd take back there possiton for a while it would be favorable for it to take is crown back so intel would be forced to struggle more into make someting stronger. nothing better then competiton to let that happen
cause when economy degrade. you have two choice. resign and work on a long project.. or spend hundred million to make it happen shorter a possibltiy to conter attack
and it apprently what is going out with vista not enough innovative so they doubled the worker on the project . it was esitmated 1000worker for vista well there 2000worker. it say for Window Seven.
not to mention recently. AMD ad to fire up 2000worker. that bad but intel did same just to keep price lower. [/QUOTE]''vista not enough innovative'' yeah... thats why I hate monopoly... Mac much more innovative...I agree to keep price lower Intel and AMD had to fire up workers... Don't blame them to do that... Blame the ''DAMN Oil Price''... the skyrocketing Oil price already kill many big Companies... They just want to survive...
Everone keeps saying this is an ideal chip for servers without addressing the question of why there are 6 graphic card slots in crossfire mode on the non-server motherboard that they are showing all over the world!So here is the question in bold only so everyone will notice itWHAT IS 6 GRAPHIC CARD SLOTS IN CROSSFIRE MODE DOING ON A BOARD FOR A CHIP DESIGNED FOR SERVERS???????????
[QUOTE=''SEANMCAD'']Everone keeps saying this is an ideal chip for servers without addressing the question of why there are 6 graphic card slots in crossfire mode on the non-server motherboard that they are showing all over the world!So here is the question in bold only so everyone will notice itWHAT IS 6 GRAPHIC CARD SLOTS IN CROSSFIRE MODE DOING ON A BOARD FOR A CHIP DESIGNED FOR SERVERS???????????[/QUOTE]i have only seen 4 cards in CF which im sure is the maximum (8 GPU's in total), show me a link where theres 6 cards in CF.
